[Akonadi] [Bug 329730] New: reminder does not pop up at login if digital clock widget runs

[Franky]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

Bug ID: 329730
Summary: reminder does not pop up at login if digital clock
widget runs
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Akonadi
Version: 4.12
Platform: Archlinux Packages
OS: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: NOR
Component: KAlarm resource
Assignee: ***@kde.org
Reporter: ***@kabelmail.de
CC: kdepim-***@kde.org

At Login normally a reminderwindow pops up to show birthdays. This feature
fails for me a long time (in Ubuntu packages too) and i asked a lot in
different forums and on IRC. Until today, it seems, that i have bin the only
one who runs in this failure. Anyway: Since yesterday i looked forward to find
a solution for me.

After some experiments i found following:
1. If the digital clock widget is active at login, the reminderwindow doesn't
pop up. If i remove the digital clock and logout/login the reminderwindow pops
up.

2. If the digital clock widget is active (at login or activate it afterwards)
and i restart akonadi with "akonadictl restart" the reminderwindow pops up.

What i expect is, that the reminderwindow pops up every time if i login.

It would be very nice, to get some hints about that (my?) bug. Because of this
failure i forgot allready some birthdays :-(

[David Jarvie]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #1 from David Jarvie <***@kde.org> ---
Can you please give full details of which digital clock widget you are using,
so that the bug can be tested with the same widget installed. Please bear in
mind that I don't have an Archlinux installation.

[Franky]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #2 from Franky <***@kabelmail.de> ---
Thanks for reponse :-)

Its the default digital clock widget, wich is in the panel. On click it shows
the calendar events including birthdays.

But its not sure, if this widget causes the problem. As i restart the hole
System, without the clock widget, the reminderwindow does not popup. Maybe
because kontact starts with the login? I will watch the behavior...

But if i restart akonadi, the reminder popup will allways appear. Regardless of
a running kontact or digital clock widget. Confusing...

[David Jarvie]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

David Jarvie <***@kde.org> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Component|KAlarm resource |Akonadi
Version|4.12 |unspecified
Product|Akonadi |kalarm

[David Jarvie]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #3 from David Jarvie <***@kde.org> ---
KDE 4.12

[Franky]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #4 from Franky <***@kabelmail.de> ---
(In reply to comment #3)

Post by David Jarvie
KDE 4.12

In case of a question: Yes, its kde 4.12. But the missing reminder popup
follows me for years...

Today i boot the system twice and everytime the reminder window pops up at
login (without the digital clock in panel). Things that happens:
1. Kontact/kmail starts up and i see that akonadi ins't running
2. akonadi starts
3. Reminderwindow pops up

The reminder daemon is configured as "Enable reminders" and "Start reminder
daemon at login"

Additional info: If i add the digital clock and configure it to NOT show
events, the reminderwindow pops up at login.

It seems to me, that only the trigger to display the reminder window is'nt
fired if akonadi runs befor the daemon runs. I think this, because in case of a
akonadi restart, the reminder always pops up. Only guessed...

[David Jarvie]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #5 from David Jarvie <***@kde.org> ---
Are you using KAlarm or KOrganizer/Kontact to set up the reminders?

[Franky]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #6 from Franky <***@kabelmail.de> ---
I am using KOrganizer/Kontact.

[Franky]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #7 from Franky <***@kabelmail.de> ---
This failure drives me crazy...

When booting today, no reminder popup appears. Also when i logout/login. The
only thing i did yesterday was to set the session from
"Restore previous session"
to
"Restore manually saved session"

A "akonadictl restart" in konsole: The reminder popup appears.

So i changed the setting to "Restore previous session" again and logout/login.
No change, no reminderpopup.

I noticed that kontact/kmail starts very fast. So i decided to close kontact
and logout/login... tadaaa: The reminder popup appears. Then i start
kontact/kmail and logout login.... tadaaa: The reminder popup appears at login
(before kontact/kmail starts).

The behavior with the digital clock is allways the same: If the clock is set to
show events, the reminder popoup will never show, regardless of a running
kontact/kmail.

As a dirty workaround, i wrote a script and run it at autostart:

#!/bin/bash
sleep 5
akonadictl restart

With this script the reminderpopup appears regardless of showing events in the
digital clock or in case of starting kontact/kmail at login or of "Restore
manually saved session". But this script has a uggly sideeffect: The folderview
in kmail is collapsed, so i must expand it to get the view of previous expanded
kmailfolders.

If i am the only one who have the failure of a "Reminder do not popup at login"
this dirty script will at least make me not forgot some birthdays...

[David Jarvie]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

David Jarvie <***@kde.org> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Component|Akonadi |general
Assignee|***@kde.org |korganizer-***@kde.org
Product|kalarm |korgac

[Franky]

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Franky <***@kabelmail.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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CC| |***@kabelmail.de

[Denis Kurz via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

Denis Kurz <***@posteo.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDSINFO
Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO

--- Comment #8 from Denis Kurz <***@posteo.de> ---
This bug has only been reported for versions before 4.14, which have been
unsupported for at least two years now. Can anyone tell if this bug still
present?

If noone confirms this bug for a Framework-based version of korgac (version 5.0
or later, as part of KDE Applications 15.08 or later), it gets closed in about
three months.

[Franky via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #9 from Franky <***@kabelmail.de> ---
The reminder didn't work at all, regardless of which clock i am using. I am
using KMail 5.3.0 and kf 5.25 (arch-linux). Maybe i do not really understand
how the reminder works, or for which circumstances it would be useful, or it
doesn't fit my needs.

So this bug couldn't be confirmed by me anymore. Feel free to mark it as
invalid.

Thanks for all replies anyway :-)

[Denis Kurz via KDE Bugzilla]

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Denis Kurz <***@posteo.de> changed:

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CC| |***@posteo.de

--- Comment #10 from Denis Kurz <***@posteo.de> ---
(In reply to Franky from comment #9)

Post by Franky via KDE Bugzilla
Maybe i do not really understand
how the reminder works, or for which circumstances it would be useful, or it
doesn't fit my needs.

Nevermind, you are not the only one who's confused/frustrated by reminders not
popping up as expected. There's definitely something off.

[Franky via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

--- Comment #11 from Franky <***@kabelmail.de> ---
Forgotten: My solution with the script provided in comment 7 also doesn't work
anymore.

[Denis Kurz]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329730

Denis Kurz <***@posteo.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO |UNMAINTAINED
Status|NEEDSINFO |RESOLVED

--- Comment #12 from Denis Kurz <***@posteo.de> ---
Just as announced in my last comment, I close this bug. If you encounter it
again in a recent version (at least 5.0 aka 15.08), please open a new one
unless it already exists. Thank you for all your input.